TOMORROW is Apop Movie night at 9pm, free.
TOMORROW is Overdoser and Who Fucking Cares? at Bonerville.
FRIDAY is The Spits with The Humanoids, TV Ghost (IN) and Shaved Women at Atomic Cowboy
SATURDAY is Pillow Talk and Better Days at Mangia
Sunday you get to breath.
then MONDAY is Heavy Times, Super Sonic Piss, Anodes and Shaved Women at CBGB.
WEDNESDAY is Strong City with Family Might and The Haddonfields at No Coast
THURSDAY is STARING PROBLEM, Pedals on our Pirate Ships and doom town at El Lenador.
see you guys around. a lot.
do mentions in publications like the RFT and Eleven, etc, have an effect on St. Louis’ true diy events / bands / community? Do we have anything to gain from an article in the paper or is there only possible damage?
The things we do in basements (technically illegally) has no reason to be put on blast by a large publication like that, for obvious reasons. And even beyond those obvious reasons, is it better or worse for the “good bands” or “good shows” to be mentioned even when there is no risk of somebody’s house venue being shut down?
I’ll speak for myself only here, but I think that first of all, it’s important to give love to the people working for the RFT specifically who truly “get it”. Josh Levi and Daniel Hill are doing their best and covering cool shit in what is otherwise a giant, free turd that is read mostly for savage love or just because it’s free at your work. But after saying that, I feel like putting a diy event in a publication otherwise littered with bullshit not only marginalizes what we do but also endangers it. And I’ll admit that I’m snobby, elitist and mostly just a dickhead, but do we really want EVERYBODY invited to good hardcore / noise / etc shows even at a legitimate venue? Are you REALLY glad that those few jackoffs are having a good time dancing right in front of everybody, stepping on pedals? I’m fuckin not. What we do has to have some level of secrecy, a level of need-to-know basis, prestige, whatever you want to call it. It’s not for everybody, and that’s the entire premise, really.
That being said, you can only alienate so hard for so long before nothing is happening anymore. That’s where the old “have fun not paying bands and seeing the same 15 people at shows” mentality comes from. And there’s merit to that. We can’t have EVERYBODY mean mugging and outcasting every “newcomer” to diy community. I’m not saying that’s what I’m seeing, it’s just what I’d like to CONTINUE not seeing.
These shows in St. Louis are FINE without mention in any other publication. The flyers are often vaguely offensive and mysterious ON PURPOSE. They don’t have the address ON PURPOSE. It has been happening just fine for over 30 years and there’s no need to change things. They police themselves (see : Flatass Ben at Bloody Knives), they pick up after themselves, they promote themselves, they raise enough money to bring bands through time and time again.
I have no idea why I got ranty. I try to avoid doing any typing or personal speaking with this GWD project, but here it is. I’m not even really looking for your thoughts, I just thought it was an interesting point to bring up. Something to be conscious of when you make a flyer, or post about a show, or tell certain people about certain things. I think this is something important to keep in the forefront of our minds.
In an only kind of separate note, please take good care of Bonerville and it’s residents when at a show. Those kids are so fuckin nice you’ll never comprehend it. They allow you into their home to smoke cigarettes and punch people in the face, then they clean up your beer cans and piss, then they won’t accept your money because the touring band deserves it. Seeing this house end up like 2 keys, Skullfuckeree, Building R, Slaughterhouse, Apop, or a huge number of other DIY spaces would be a huge bummer. The things that ruin DIY aren’t lack of promotion from the RFT, it’s not paying to be at a show and being a big fuckin loud mouth about shit that ain’t public information.